Politics of the Seven Kingdoms: Part VIII (The Stormlands)

Hey folks! If you’d like to read my essay on the politics of the Stormlands collected in one place, it’s now up on Tower of the Hand here.

Check it out!


10 thoughts on “Politics of the Seven Kingdoms: Part VIII (The Stormlands)

  1. Brett says:

    I guess that just leaves Dorne. That’s an odd one, because it’s not like you have to deduce the state and kingdom formation from events like with the other seven kingdoms – the kingdom formation project for Dorne is explicitly in the World of Ice and Fire, with the Rhoynish women and Nymeria marrying Martell and his fellow Dornish lords and knights.

    • Murc says:

      Dorne is a bit of a parvenu in comparison to the other seven kingdoms, really. Their political unity took place less than a thousand years ago, they’re practically babies compared to all the other realms.

    • Yeah, I’ll be doing a lot of bank-shotting off of other chapters to do this one.

      • Anas Abusalih says:

        Good luck!
        Personally, I’m a little confused on how Dorne can be both the most fractious and the most harmonious.
        Given that the Yronwoods rose for the Blackfyres three times the idea that they didn’t jump on Aegon I’s bandwagon seems a little strange to me as does the fact no one thought “screw this, I’m not fighting against someone who has dragons!”
        This sticks out especially to me given that Aegon I made it clear beforehand that he wasn’t out to change Westeros culturally and more importantly rewards those who serve him.
        I mean, I get why Dorne in ASOIAF has a sense of proto-nationalism but not why it did during the Wars of Conquest given its prior history.

        • thatrabidpotato says:

          I tend to think by the time of the wars of conquest it’s been “Dorne versus everyone else” for long enough, plus a shared Rhoynar identity, that the Dornish weren’t willing to give up and rallied behind the Martells. We’ll have to see what Steven makes of it though.

        • zonaria says:

          Not sure if it stands up as an accurate historical example, but perhaps something like the way the Greek city-states constantly fought each other but rallied together when confronted by Persian invasions.

        • Murc says:

          Personally, I’m a little confused on how Dorne can be both the most fractious and the most harmonious.

          They weren’t both at the same time?

          Dorne under the Martell’s never seemed particularly fractious. Nymeria and Mors, and their immediate heirs, welded together a bunch of fractious petty-states into not just a state, but a nation. There’s plenty of real-world precedent for this; Italy and Germany come to mind.

  2. […] of Tarth.” (WOIAF) These lords, however, acted very much for their own political reasons. As I’ve discussed before, Lord Boremund Baratheon’s support for Laenor stemmed from a long-term political project of the […]

  3. […] and the Yronwoods were, compared to our understanding of the imperial visions of Gyles III or Arlan III – and without a sense of what the kings of Dorne dreamed their state could be, we can’t […]

  4. […] could unify the famously fractious Dornish (just as the Dornish had been for the Reachermen and Stormlanders. Moreover, as shared suffering and shared victories are the coin of building group identity – […]

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