“Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 7, “The Gift”

A tad late, but we finally got there! So here’s a little something to make Sunday get here faster.

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10 thoughts on ““Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 7, “The Gift”

  1. nichst100 says:

    I’ve always believed the North Remembers Lady to be married to the North Remembers Man looking after Brienne and Podrick. A quick observation that NR Lady has failed to return from her shift at Winterfell should provide impetus for Brienne to go charging in.

    • Sean C. says:

      Whether or not they’re married, logically the fact that this lady was gruesomely murdered and her body put on display should quite quickly make its way through whatever network of Stark sympathizers exist, and thus back to Brienne. But it won’t, because that would short-circuit the plot (one of many such contrivances in this story).

  2. Sean C. says:

    Regarding the “candle in the tower” bit, I thought it was fairly obvious that Theon is going to do that. It’s a pretty standard dramatic setup: the first time he blows it, the second time he’ll actually do it.

    On the question of scene continuity, there’s no uniform rule for this, but I’d argue it’s often better for scenes to be cut up. Going elsewhere creates suspense and better-conveys the passage of time. For instance, I think it’s better to keep the audience guessing after Theon goes to Ramsay, rather than just immediately cut to Sansa being brought out.

    On the issue of who Littlefinger gave Olenna, I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be Lancel. While the High Sparrow’s comments certainly read like he’s known all along, his actions really don’t square with that — in particular, he never did anything to try to manipulate Cersei into giving him power; she did that all on her own, with no prompting from anybody. This is most likely explained as the writers bungling their attempt to both condense the plot (by eliminating Lancel’s confession to the earlier High Septon) and add in roles for more characters (Olenna, Littlefinger).

    • artihcus022 says:

      My main issue with the whole scene is why would Sansa tell Theon about the candle, her secret weapon and means to escape? Theon is the man who murdered her brothers, betrayed Robb and stood and watched as she got raped and did nothing. What possible reason does she have for trusting Theon out of the blue. It’s just blatantly contrived and it only exists as a result of merging Sansa and Jeyne into this ungainly amalgam.

  3. SummerIsComing says:

    I don’t find that Sansa is spinning her wheels throught the season (see Jon and Ygritte S2 for that). Brienne totally is and I kind of wished she’s spend the season with Pod going through the Neck (cool to see that) since she can’t go through Moat Cailin and then show up at the end of the season to do whatever it is she’s going to (no convoluted candle plan (serious that Old Nan stand-in should giving her moon tea) and maybe she meets Howland Reed which could have been neat way to meet him). It isn’t an issue of editing with Theon/Reek going to Ramsay. Its the audience expectation/hope that he goes to the broken tower that makes it seem like he’s going into the Broken Tower. I like Bronn, but the you-play-a-good-game-boyy-but-now-you-die-oh-wait-one-you-don’t seem weird and I hope that (see Damian Lewis on Homeland), but whenever there are even just one nudity scene, do we have to have the standard complain of why it is or isn’t “germane” or “contextual” or whatever. If it is going to happen every single time, it gets old. She gets naked to make Bronn’s heart pump harder and the poison to work more quickly. They could have spelled that out more, but than you’d be lamenting how they spell everything out too much. I totally concur it’s Olyvar. Remember how would Cersei know that Olyvar both had sex with Loras and also Margaery witness it? Petyr gave him to her and now he’s giving him to Olenna Redwyne.

  4. David Hunt says:

    Regarding Aemon’s birth order, Aemon was Maekar’s third son. The oldest was Daeron the Drunkard and second was Aerion Brightflame. He went to the Citadel because his “prospects” were said to be very poor. I interpret that to mean that he showed no talent at arms.

    • Right, forgot that in the moment. Thanks.

    • SummerIsComing says:

      I thought he was sent to Oldtown because his grandfather was worried about in-fighting among his many male descendants (it’s very much in the Blackfyre heyday) so he was send to the Citadel and by luck he just toke to maesterdom while he was there? My own headcannon pre-TWOIAF was that Maekar’s wife was a Hightower so it would explain why send Aemon to Oldtown for protection (plus a Hightower connection would help to explain Daenerys’ physical resemblance to Jorah’s long-lost wife Lynesse Hightower).

    • winnie says:

      Yeah, though Aemon clearly was also bright and bookish so the Citadel was always a good fit.

      Which kinda makes me suspicious about Randyll refusing to let Sam be a maester. It its good enough for a Targaryen it was good enough for the son of Horn Hill…unless of course Tarly was deliberately steering his son away from the course of action which would have kept him geographically closest and made him happy as opposed to the option that sent him farthest away AND had the strongest likelihood of getting him killed.

      God I hate Randyll. Next season should be interesting.

      • David Hunt says:

        The way I see it, Lord Randyll was truthful about his reasons in his refusal to allow Sam to become a maester. Keep in mind that it had been about 75 years since Aemon had gone to the Citadel. Lord Tarly’s grandfather probably hadn’t been born yet. I think that Randyll sent Sam to the Watch as opposed to the Citadel for because he was truly disgusted by the idea of a Tarly taking up the maester’s chain. The whole point of getting rid of Sam in that way was to send him somewhere that he wouldn’t shame his father. Randyll thought of the maesterdom as shameful for a Tarly and we know from AFFC that Randyll had business, friends and enemies in Oldtown. Sam’s presence there (or anywhere) where people Randyll knew could see him was unacceptable to Lord Randyll. Now he might still have sent him to the Faith, but he sent Sam to a warrior order as far away as he could send him while he’s still on the continent. His hatred for Sam and hope for his death is in there, but it’s also that, even once he’s rid of his hated son, he still had to send him away to an order knows for its warrior and not its scholars…because that’s where a Tarly belongs. He can tell his friends and vassals that his son has gone north to join the Watch and fight wildlings. That’s a story that Randyll Tarly can tell without feeling ashamed. How suited Sam was to living up to that story was of tertiary interest at best, and likely wholly irrelevant.

        Yes, Randyll Tarly is easy to hate. He’s in the Final Four bracket for Worst Father in Westeros…at least.

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