“Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 8, “Hardhome”

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And we’re back! Scott and I decided to do Episode 8 before we did Episode 7, because Episode 8 is much cooler. However, we’ll be back with Episode 7 later this week.

14 thoughts on ““Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 8, “Hardhome”

  1. Son of Fire says:

    Good stuff!
    I stayed up untill 5am monday morning to watch it and it was worth every second of tiredness,& then i watched it again the next day!
    The night’s king was epic as was the battle itself,loved the look on the walkers face when longclaw blocks his speat/sword thing & “Wun wun to the sea” 🙂

  2. Winnie says:

    Love the podcast as always Steve.

    Interesting commentary on how the Many Faced God acts as an equalizing force within Braavos-the one recourse for the poor and lowly if they’ve been wronged. You could do a whole novel series about that alone…hmmm….

    Good parallel between Sansa and Cersei both trying to escape imprisonment this season. I think they’re deliberately trying to draw parallels between those two more and more and we all know *why* I think that but we’ll see.

    It will be pretty ironic if Sansa who’s Theon’s foster sister, (and right now hates him,) succeeds where the blood sister who was trying to rescue him failed, in getting him to become Theon again.

    “Do what every competent Russian commander has ever done,” LOL!!!

    “Targaryen Privilege.” Seems appropriate, though I think “Targaryen Entitlement” works even better.

    Yeah, I think Dorne might align with Dany on the show myself.

    Yep, nothing like an Army of the Undead to end an debate and convince everybody to just GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!

    Oh, so *that’s* why the First Men built a 700 foot high gajillion mile long Wall!

    WUN WUN!!! Hopefully he can swim…

    This was not a Major Battle Sequence-this was a Slaughter Sequence.

    Great final moment between the NK and AA, there…god for the last five seasons of the show, and nearly *twenty years* in the books we’ve been waiting for the Ice Zombie Apocalypse, and now that it’s finally here, you’re left thinking, “Oh God, We’re So Fucked.”

    I agree Jorah will lay down his life for Dany…but I’m afraid he may first end up starting a Greyscale epidemic in Mereen.

    I really *really* hope you’re wrong about Stannis offering up Shireen, but I’m scared you might be right.

    And I think your theory about Theon/Sansa escaping through the tunnels-and leading Stannis to them thus ensuring the Boltons defeat at WF is completely correct…but I’m not sure if Stannis survives the taking of WF. I think he’ll die fighting.

    • Sean C. says:

      I agree Jorah will lay down his life for Dany…but I’m afraid he may first end up starting a Greyscale epidemic in Mereen.

      As far as Jorah’s odds of dying go (well, he’s pretty clearly going to die, but it’s a question of when), the unknown factor is what the specific purpose of giving him greyscale is. Is it just meant to give him extra motivation to make a heroic sacrifice that they by extension had already decided to add in (which would be a change from the books, where there’s no particular indication that Jorah will die all that soon)? Or is it important that he has greyscale because it’s important in the books that Jon Connington has greyscale? If the latter, Jorah should live to see Westeros again.

      • Winnie says:

        They could be setting it up for the greyscale to substitute for the Pale Mare in Mereen on the show.

        But that is a good point, that it may be Jorah will start a greyscale epidemic in Westeros. Oh, shit.

  3. Andrew says:

    Excellent review as ever Steven. I’ve enjoyed this season so far (unlike others) and this episode has taken it up a level which will hopefully be maintained for the traditional highpoint that is episode 9.

    I agree with your theory on Sansa’s escape, but with a small addition: I think Brienne & Pod have a part to play in the escape and that will end up bringing Stannis & Brienne face-to-face. I have no idea how it plays out from there.

    With regards to Qyburn talking about religious courts, I took that to be him pacifying Cersei in the same way that any good sycophant would: “Obviously these allegations are nonsense, but this court values innuendo far more than a proper court would”. I really didn’t take it as him being serious about the low burden of proof required by a religious court.

    • Winnief says:

      Agreed that Qyborn was sucking up to Cersei there. Also a certain sick irony that Cersei Lannister the Queen of Kangaroo Courts and Show Trials would be complaining about due process here…especially since unlike Ned or Tyrion she’s damn well guilty of everything she’s being accused of.

  4. artihcus022 says:

    Speaking of “Targaryen Privilege” I am amazed that neither you or SEK caught on the major part of that “Break the Wheel” speech. The inclusion of one word that was missing in the trailer and included in that speech:

    Daenerys: Lannister, Targaryen, Baratheon, Stark, Tyrell. They’re all just spokes on a wheel. This one’s on top, then that one’s on top. And on and on it spins, crushing those on the ground.

    She included “Targaryen” with the other houses. So its not just “Targaryen Privilege” anymore. She’s including her family with the other houses. That was there in the show but missing in the trailer. It changed the context entirely.

  5. David Hunt says:

    I can see Stannis (everyone must do their duty) Baratheon sacrificing his daughter to save the world. Especially if he thinks she’s going to die anyway. I’m not sure I’d want to meet the man that act turned him into. Everyone keeps saying that they think Stannis is dies taking Winterfell, but I don’t think so. I think that he’s got to live at least long enough for it to be obvious to Melisandre that Dany and/or Jon is the true fulfillment of her prophecy and she been backing the wrong horse all along (and burned the sweetest girl within a hundred miles, but I don’t think that’s what would trouble her). Stannis is also a more human and tragic figure if he lives to realize what he’s done and how it was for nothing. Maybe he should take the Black…

    Anyone want to start a poll on what the last shot of the season will be? Before this episode, I’d have named Dany flying out of Meereen on Drogon’s back, but now I’m thinking it’s going to be Jon being murdered by his own men (et tu Bowen).

    • Winnie says:

      If Shireen dies, (by his hand or someone else’s,) I’d prefer Stannis not to survive much longer, because it will be too painful to see what her death would do to him.

      He certainly would be a good candidate to take the Black, though. Maybe even a possible Lord Commander.

      And yeah, it’s gonna be interesting seeing Mel’s reaction when she *finally* figures out the truth.

      I like the idea of Jon’s murder being the final shot of the episode-so they can have the resurrection happen to close out Episode 10 on a big WTF moment.

  6. Sean C. says:

    I’m not sure I really follow Steve’s logic regarding the Winterfell plot. Theon doesn’t know they went into the crypts, and Sansa was clearly talking about where they went in general (i.e., where are they now?).

    It’s unclear whether there’s going to be any KL at all in episode 9, but I find it interesting that since Cersei was imprisoned they’ve opted to present events there solely from her POV, akin to the books (something they rarely do, which can sometimes be detrimental to the story). It’s effective, I think — though unrelatedly, this season seems to be again adhering to the pattern where the Tyrells start the season off as big players and then recede into the background by the latter half (which I though might be broken this year).

    Speaking of the Tyrells, one change I’m really wondering about is, what is the show going to do about the Tyrells’ trials. In the book, Cersei creates an elaborate box to prevent Margaery from demanding a trial by combat, but in the show Loras is the primary accused, and is obviously not unavailable. It seems like that should be the first thing he does (but nobody, including the Tyrells themselves, seems to be considering this).

    About the stuff at Hardhome, etc., little needs to be said, other than that the Night’s Watch storyline has been consistently the best storyline this season, and that continues here.

    • Winnie says:

      But Theon *did* learn from Luwin that there were secret passages out of WF.

      I’m not sure in the show version that Trial by Combat is even an option for the Tyrell’s. The High SParrow seemed pretty certain it would be a trial by the Seven. I think what’s going to happen is LF arranges Olyvar’s death and with the main witness against both of them gone, the Faith will *have* to let them go.

      • Sean C. says:

        It has to be an option, since Cersei is facing the same process and she’s clearly going to be using Robert Strong.

        • Winnie says:

          Fair point. It could be that Loras’s strength for fighting is being sapped by his time in the dungeons though.

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