“Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 2, “The House of Black and White”

And we’re back! I actually liked this episode substantially more than the premiere, so that’s a good sign.

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20 thoughts on ““Video” Podcast of HBO’s Game of Thrones, Season 5 Episode 2, “The House of Black and White”

  1. winnie says:

    I liked this one better too-it feels like the season is starting to gain some steam.

    Braavos is everything I imagined it to be and so perfect for Arya.

    The Alcazar as the Water Gardens was a great choice.

    Kevan Rocks.

    Jamie/Bronn road trip. Nuff said.

    Neither Stark girl wants Brienne’s help but Sansa has a secret guardian anyway. Love Pod and the fight scenes there.

    Shireen is so adorable she must be doomed. Sob.

    Sounds like they’re setting up for someone to get grayscale…Jorah perhaps.

    Aemon making the tie breaker vote. Perfect.

    DROGON!!!

  2. Son of Fire says:

    Excellent as always
    I too missed the good ruler/bad ruler connections between scenes,good catch !!

  3. David Hunt says:

    Having listened to the podcast, I’ll say that I agree that Selmy was referring to Dany & Viserys with his “all but two” comment. I didn’t even find the grammar confusing. I’ve only watched it once, but what I got out of it was that ROBERT’S REBELLION wiped out all but two members of House Targaryan…who are well known to be Viserys and Dany. Viserys then went and committed Suicide by Dothraki, leaving Dany as the last of her line. Even if the show is going to bring in a hidden Targ, there’s no way that Barriston would know about them…and if he did he’d have told Dany about them outright, and on screen because they’re not going to have Dany find out something like that without the audience seeing it.

    • Winnie says:

      Damn straight. Plus Barristan would feel obligated to tell Dany about something like that….*if* he knew about it. As far as everyone knows Dany is the last Targaryen…but that might change by the end of this season.

  4. djinn says:

    Did Jon and Sam forgot about Bran and Rickon being alive? Why didn’t Brienne mentioned Arya to Sansa? Aren’t the Lannisters looking for Sansa? Are there as many masters as are freedmen? Lollys doesn’t like yellow while wearing yellow?

    Confusing episode.

    • In the books, Sam swears an oath not to tell Jon that Bran is still alive, so Jon doesn’t know. I forgot what they did with this plot point in the show.

      Aren’t the Lannisters looking for Sansa? Which is why Sansa doesn’t trust Brienne. Littlefinger freely admits that Sansa is Sansa to Brienne because he’s planning on killing Brienne right away in any case.

      Are there as many masters as are freedmen?
      Maybe only so many people could fit on the viewing platforms for the execution, with the masters commandeering the top half for themselves.

      • djinn says:

        Pretty sure Sam told Jon, since he comments on Bran’s possible were about just before Crasterfuck. Apparently, Jon has no objections on stepping ahead of his ”siblings” for Winterfell.

        But they are in a public Inn. Is he planning on killing all others inside as well? Why not accept Brienne service and get rid of her later?

        Still, it’s weird that there’s isn’t a obvious numerical advantage of the freedmen.

        Still, a ok episode overall, outside of Sansa and Jaime stories, the rest have all the essential beats.

  5. What was the point of Arya having to wonder around Braavos, kill a pigeon and almost get into a fight before being admitted by the Faceless Men? Martin wrote such a lovely scene for the introduction of the House of Black and White with its pool of suicide poison and the priest with the head of a skull, which I was really forward to seeing on the screen. Instead we get a tour of the back alleys of Braavos.

    • It’s a pretty standard “initially discourage the novice to make sure only the truly committed join the monastery” thing.

      • So why did the Faceless Men relent? Usually the applicant either has to perform some an impressive feat to overcome this trope or to demonstrate truly impressive levels of stubbornness. Arya does neither: she leaves the entrance to the temple and the most impressive thing she does is kill a pigeon.

        • Sean C. says:

          Yeah, I thought that was a pretty lame substitution for the book sequence. Drawing your sword on a couple of teenage douchebags isn’t much of a demonstration of character.

        • She wasn’t going to search for another life. She didn’t head for the docks looking for a ship home. She went into the city to get food and quickly get’s into a situation where she’s going to kill some people. Arya’s path is death and given that the faceless men might as well make use of her. She’s a killer regardless of if they help her.

  6. Sean C. says:

    Arya’s prayer has lost more than half its membership between seasons. The loss of the Brotherhood is another blow for those who thought we might see those characters again, though Mel not being on it anymore is also interesting, since some people had been speculating that her being on the list plus Mel’s comment that they would meet again meant Arya might kill her.

    Littlefinger’s comments about Brienne were kind of interesting, since it’s tempting to read them merely as him being deceitful, but he doesn’t know about the shadow baby, so he’s probably sincere in believing that Brienne is some crazy liar who killed Renly herself. That explanation would most appeal to his cynical personality.

    I do like when we get action scenes with horses. I know the budget/filming practicality nixes them most of the time, but that makes me appreciate the ones we get more. Pod being such a horrible rider is such a nonsensical detail in the world they live in, though.

    Regarding Lollys, I don’t think the TV version is meant to be mentally disabled. She’s a bit goofy, but if you look at the Unsullied reactions, none of them read her as having issues, and she seems pretty ‘together’ on the whole (certainly very different from the book version). I kind of think this may be a case of book readers’ imposing details on the show version.

    On the subject of Ellaria, while in one sense she’s replacing Arianne, her actual dialogue with Doran is all from the Sand Snakes, and her plan doesn’t look to be anything like Arianne’s (Arianne wasn’t any more interested in child mutilation than Book!Ellaria).

    There’s a weird bit running through all these episodes where Cersei is seeming not queen regent anymore, which doesn’t make sense.

    • Winnie says:

      Yeah, Show Lollys may be a bit…simple but she’s hardly disabled like the book version was. And it doesn’t look like Bronn will be marrying her at all much less naming her son after Tyrion…something I always found pretty funny.

      I do think Arya will meet Mel again…it’s just that for now, the show’s concentrating on other list members for the inevitable scene with Meryn Trant.

      And I agree Ellaria is being mistreated-though it could be her initial grief talking and maybe, MAYBE she’ll become a little more reasonable if not like her book counterpart.

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