Here it is, folks, the big episode you’ve all been waiting for:
Last episode of Season 2 on Friday!
The “naked woman on his lap” is there due to the executive speaking for the “perv demographic” (HBO is a weird cross between a conveyor of prestige television and a 70s B-movie producer).
My favourite part of the commentary track for this episode was Peter Dinklage making fun of how Cersei is never actually shown taking a drink in the course of the episode.
“There is a character arc going on here” — There’s really not. That’s the whole problem with the scene between Sansa and the Hound. It exists only because something vaguely like this was in the book. The characters in the show have no relationship to speak of, the scene is not the climax of anything, and it really doesn’t make sense on a level of scene construction.
This is still my favourite episode of the series. Focusing on one location alone is not something the show can justify doing much (indeed, it’s only happened once more, and much less effectively), but it worked great here. To a great extent it redeems the uneven season that preceded it.
Thoughts on your latest podcast in real time…
Hee-bottle episode indeed.
Yeah, that’s one of the highlights of the episode for me too-I don’t know who to root for either.
The Cersei drinking game-best way to get drunk ever!
Did not know Jerome Flynn was former British pop star…vewwwwy interesting.
Like you, I loved the moment where Sansa manipulates Joffrey into going to the front lines, (a harbinger of her role to come,) but what you and SEK didn’t mention, but what I always liked was that moment between Sansa/Tyrion that followed. “I will pray for you my lord…just as I pray for the king,” and that great reaction shot from Tyrion of “What did I expect?” I actually think it was a way of laying groundwork for the S/T wedding and the dynamic that followed in Seasons 3&4.
Drunk Cersei was absolutely fabulous and gave me a whole new appreciation for LH. And yeah, they definitely brought her internalized misogyny to light here.
“Stannis at his most Stannis.” Seriously “Come with me and take the city!” has to be one of my favorite Stannis-isms from the show OR books.
I don’t think its that they were trying to make Cersei sympathetic, as they were showing us the source of her bitterness. Empathy not sympathy was what they were going for.
I don’t think Joffrey was ‘hurt’ by the Hound’s desertion…I think he was confounded by the fact that the pet dog had a mind of his own, and that terrified him as much as the invading army.
Loved Cersei trying to re-cast the story of innocent lions being preyed on by evil stags…and if it seems illogical that’s the whole point. Cersei was never entirely stable to begin with and her break-up I think was beginning to happen here.
And “Blackwater” was a new high mark for what could be done in the medium.
As just a show watcher at the time i was very impressed by lancel actually doing some fighting…sure the hound did’nt really give him a choice but still kudos to him.
Was it an arrow or a cross-bow bolt?,a bolt to the shoulder would break your collarbone & maybe your arm plus a rib or two making him totally combat ineffective!
I remember thinking there was a continuity error,that cersei hits him on the wrong shoulder.
Speaking of Lancel, I know a lot of the Unsullied assume he must have died as a result of his injuries, since he’s never seen or mentioned again in the following two seasons.
Sansa cheers him up a bit at joffs wedding in asos ,the show got pip back for 1 scene in S3,could of done the same for lancel…shown how messed up he’s become before the whole zealot thing in S5!
Tech note — the iTunes feed seems to be on the fritz again as of the last 2 podcasts.
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